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Last updated 05:30, 22 November 2008 (UTC) by Tangobot (maintained by Tangotango)

about Jaime Balmes

Dear Piotr,

The article about Jaime Balmes is duplicated as Jaime Balmes and Jaime Lucio Balmes, can you take note of this? By the way, his second name in Spanish was Luciano and not Lucio.

Regards, --Gustavo (talk) 01:38, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Please see w:commons:Category:Coats of arms of families of Poland in Gniezno cathedral

Good pics, I am working on. Regards. --Gustavo (talk) 21:03, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Please see Sokola coat of arms. Regards.--Gustavo (talk) 20:53, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
By mistake I uploaded w:commons:Image:Sokola CoA Galczynski.PNG and Image:Sokola CoA Galczynski.PNG some days ago. You may delete the last one if you wish. It is pointed for speedy deletion already.
By the way, I am working on w:commons:Image:Gniezno Cathedral - inside 40.JPG, I have some problems with the Skrzetuski's proper coat of arms (see w:commons:Image:Gniezno Cathedral - inside 41.JPG). I couldn't identify the cheqy shield on the top right. Skrzetuski's coat of arms seems to be Jasztrzebiec. May be the 4 coats of are are displayed in a wrong way.
I will see...
--Gustavo (talk) 04:54, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
Please see Image:Gniezno Cathedral - inside 12.JPG and Image:Gniezno Cathedral - inside 12 RENEW.JPG.
Well done the new w:commons:Category:Reliefs of coats of arms in Poland.Regards.
--Gustavo (talk) 04:08, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

Re: Civ warning

So is, I believe, repeatedly committing contested changes in the middle of a debate. There is civility and there is factuality. (I have no idea where NPA comes into this, unless you wish to dissolve the CVU for violating it with every summary) The user in question toed the line. I called him a vandal only once, and that was when I used TW which I was unaware made the label so blatant. The second time was a pre-emptive warning, I did not call him a vandal there. Have you warned the user not to commit disputed changes in the midst of a debate? +Hexagon1 (t) 22:33, 15 November 2008 (UTC) PS: I find it shockingly unethical that you reverted my changes, reverting the article away from the status quo because you disagreed with the terminology I used in my summaries. I have, as of the last rv of talk, offered the user a compromise, then you see it fit to waltz in, involve yourself by reverting and then abuse the mop in warning another involved user to back away. Please explain yourself. +Hexagon1 (t) 22:39, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

You may note that all of the compromises I proposed have been on the talk, all of the ones Sz proposed have been in the article itself. Edit warring seemed to be an integral part of his argument, it never made part of mine. Edit summaries don't define the character of the edits themselves - if I label an edit alphabetising a list 'Cows make moo', does that make it vandalism? Szopen's edits may have had neutral summaries but they were anything but helpful to the debate itself. Please pay more attention to the discussion before involving yourself. +Hexagon1 (t) 03:02, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Hej

Hej

Na chwilę przyszedłem na en.wiki żeby się pobawić i mam kilka pytań. Na pl.wiki mamy coś takiego jak pl:WP:SK. Czy tutaj tez jest coś takiego ?

ACMEC - czy te wszystkie szablony z góry muszą być czy komuś się pomyliło ?

I czy generalnie jeżeli będę miał pytania czysto techniczne (bo nie wiem jak się to robi na en.wiki) to moge pytać ? PMG (talk) 22:57, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Jeszcze raz - ACMEC. Wiesz ja nie wiem jak to się robi tutaj ale na pl.wiki to wstawienie czterolinijkowego szablonu nie zajmuje 8/10 objętości hasła (które teraz ma 32 kB kodu a na oko powinno mieć jakieś 4 kB). Moim zdaniem coś jest nie tak i ktoś się pomylił (przynajmniej tak bym uważał na pl.wiki). Ale jak mówisz że jest ok to ok. PMG (talk) 13:15, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
Khm - mógłbyś mnie wyręczyć ? Ja tam z en.wikowymi adminami nie gadam :>. (podejrzenie - możliwe ze wstawił szablon z substem) PMG (talk) 19:30, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
Kent motorcycle society - ency ? PMG (talk) 16:59, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
Kryteria sa trochę ... dziwne [1] [2] [3] [4]. Najwidoczniej nie nadaję się na admina na en.wiki PMG (talk) 19:51, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Question

Hello, I would like to ask for your advise. I was engaged in the discusiion about the name of the Anne of Swidnica article. I still think that the situation that we have there today is wrong. I would like to ask if, in your oppinion, I schould drop it or schould I take some further steps in order to change the German name back into the English one? If in your oppinion I schould do the seccond thing what steps would you advise me to take? Maybe I am not right here but I would like to have your opinion on this matter. Best wishes Opole.pl (talk) 12:51, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the invatation. I hope I will be able to help in some way. But what is your opinion about the Anne of Swidnica matter? Best Wishes Opole.pl (talk) 22:29, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for inviting me!

Always nice to see such a thing on one's page. I believe I can make some contributions to Polish topics. Cheers! Kameal (talk) 17:08, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Zaolzie

Actually this dispute is not that easy. Both sides have valid points and I can imagine the article with and without that mentioned fragment of text. Maybe it would benefit from more sources and rephrasing but otherwise it's not that much controversial I think. - Darwinek (talk) 19:04, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

questionable edit from another IP address earlier this year

I am thinking of reverting this. Do you have an opinion? Thanks. 67.122.210.149 (talk) 12:52, 18 November 2008 (UTC) (Note, please reply here, not on my page)

Jews and the Polish government

Hi Piotrus, I have noticed that you have removed info on Szmul Zygielbojm from the section, (maybe accidently ?) I think there should be at least a short note about him and his desperate act. If you think the same can you add short line when you get a chance? I'm not sure how to properly compose the sentence so it is acceptable to all. Here is his last letter for reference [5]

"The responsibility for the crime of the murder of the whole Jewish nationality in Poland rests first of all on those who are carrying it out, but indirectly it falls also upon the whole of humanity, on the peoples of the Allied nations and on their governments, who up to this day have not taken any real steps to halt this crime. By looking on passively upon this murder of defenseless millions tortured children, women and men they have become partners to the responsibility. I am obliged to state that although the Polish Government contributed largely to the arousing of public opinion in the world, it still did not do enough. It did not do anything that was not routine, that might have been appropriate to the dimensions of the tragedy taking place in Poland" --Jacurek (talk) 00:30, 19 November 2008 (UTC)


I understand.

Full text of his note I cited will take to much space and may overshadow the rest of the article. Let's leave it out for a while then. Maybe some ideas will come up later. Thanks--Jacurek (talk) 01:01, 19 November 2008 (UTC)


Thanks Piotrus for restoring the info on Szmul Zygielbojm. Full text is not as long as I thought it will be, looks actually really good.--Jacurek (talk) 02:10, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Holocaust in Nazi-occupied Lithuania

Well I addressed all the issues from the previous GA - but you never know what a new reviewer might think. I got the impression when I edited it that parts of it had been written by people who's first language was not English so I tidied it up. I think it looks in pretty good shape over all. However, I have no detailed knowledge of the subject so I'm not in a position to comment on the adequacy or accuracy of the sources. If you're confident about the sourcing then its worth a shot I'd say. Fainites barley 00:29, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Mieczyslaw Jagielski

I would first like to apologise for removing the info that you have now put back into the article. The removal was accidental, and I was just about to put it back when you beat me to it. Do you have any sources of info regarding Mieczyslaw Jagielski that you can link me to? I'm aiming to get this article up to a level sufficient for it to be considered for Wikipedia:Did you know. Terrakyte (talk) 00:35, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for the link you provided, and thank you for offering to examine Mieczyslaw's life further. Any more help you can give regarding the article would be much appreciated. Terrakyte (talk) 00:50, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
Definetly not the most notable figure out there, but I am enjoying the challenge of trying to build up the article. :) In answer to your question, I have decided to work on this article, simply because upon reading it I felt a desire to build it up. I can't think of anything more to my decision to work on it that that. Terrakyte (talk) 19:58, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for all the info you have added to the article. Terrakyte (talk) 19:06, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
Thank you very much for your kind words on my talk page. Without users like you who point others in the right direction, such as when you linked me to a selection of books which mention Jagielski, Wikipedia wouldn't be as worthwhile.  :) Terrakyte (talk) 19:13, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Madison on the Constitution of May 3?

The problem is that you cite Madison, but it is his editor who says it. You need to fix the citation so that it does not imply that Madison wrote about the Polish constitution in the Federalist Papers. Cite the editor. Srnec (talk) 04:00, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

DYK for Soviet annexation of Western Ukraine, 1939-1940

Updated DYK query On 19 November 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Soviet annexation of Western Ukraine, 1939-1940, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.
BorgQueen (talk) 11:46, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Holocaust again

One thing you could do - though not strictly necessary for GA I think - is do something about the multiple cites of Bubnys and Porat with different page numbers. You could try the {{harvbn}} method, (see Major depressive disorder) or, as there are only two of them, just ref + page numbers in the reflist and then the full citations below (see Reactive attachment disorder). Fainites barley 20:32, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Mieczysław Jagielski

Piotrus, I believe I have expanded the article five-fold from what it was just before I started working on it. I have now nominated the article for DYK consideration, and you can see the nom at Template talk:Did you know#Articles created/expanded on November 19. Thank you very much for all your help, and anymore work you can contribute to the article and/or DYK nomination would still be much appreciated, especially since I am planning to develop the article further. Terrakyte (talk) 23:24, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Image Use

Dear sir,

I am a student doing a secondary school iMedia project based on images with an exotic theme. I would like to request permission for the use of your image “dolphins at Loro Parque 08v2”. I can confirm that it will go no further than my project and will not have any commercial use. I hope that this will reach you so that you can reply - I was unsure how I could contact you. I appreciate your time and reply as this image will make a great difference in my project

Many thanks,

Miss L. Trosser

81.152.250.108 (talk) 21:09, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Dear Miss L. Trosser. All media related to our projects is released under free licenses. If you scroll down on the page with my image you'll see it's licensed under such licenses, which were designed specifically so people like you wouldn't have to worry about asking for permissions and could use it freely, in whatever shape, form and for whatever purpose. If I can ask for only one thing, I'd ask that you consider licensing any media you create yourself under free licenses, and that you tell your course teacher, and classmates, about free licenses and why they are useful. A good place to upload freely licensed media is Wikimedia Commons, were my pictures are hosted. Thank you, Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 21:36, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Prehistory of Poland

I've implemented the recommended changes in the Prehistory of Poland series of articles

Orczar (talk) 22:29, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Re: Moving quote

Hi Piotrus, I think that Litvinoff was referring to the 1500's and the fact that Poland welcomed Jews expelled from the other countries therefore there may not be place for it in the "Rescue article". Most Polish Jews were "saved" by the Soviet Union, paradoxically many were deported there by Stalin, who unintentionally saved quite a few lives.

just my opinion... --Jacurek (talk) 02:08, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

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DYK for Związek Organizacji Wojskowej

Updated DYK query On 21 November 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Związek Organizacji Wojskowej, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.
BorgQueen (talk) 12:26, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
Great article, Piotrus! Congrats! :) Ecoleetage (talk) 13:33, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Will the real Cabal please stand up?

This [6] would be hilarious if it wasn't also messed up.radek (talk) 06:04, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

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